Semir Osmanagić: The Soul Embarks on Its Own Journey from Life to Life (INTERVIEW)

Dr. Osmanagić, from a historical perspective, Bosnia is the country where the Bogomil teachings not only flourished but became the official religion. Do you think this is connected to the pyramids and the energies that enlightened, wise people used and controlled?
Bosnia today is a very small country. Before the Ottoman occupation, it was a small kingdom, a small independent state. But I would say it has always been very important. According to some records, the Bogomils came here after the 10th century. Before that, they were further east, in Bulgaria, and even further beyond.

I wouldn’t call the Bogomils and their teachings a "religion" in the conventional sense. Religion is a system of beliefs where a person simply has to accept certain beliefs without questioning them. I’d say that the Bogomil teachings were more about nature and the Creator in a way that was not dogmatic. Instead of having churches, synagogues, or mosques, they would gather in beautiful natural places—by rivers, in forests, or on mountain peaks.

During these meetings, they discussed topics related to their physical and spiritual life. Relatively early, between the 13th and 15th centuries, Bosnia was also a place where scholars from Europe came together, exchanging ideas and knowledge in the fields of science, astronomy, mathematics, and more. It’s hard to say whether the Bogomils had anything to do with the pyramids. Personally, I don’t think so. But could they sense the energy of the pyramid—so pleasant, uplifting, and expansive? I would say: yes!

The first Ottomans who came here were mostly dervishes. They chose two places in Bosnia for their dervish centers. One was in today’s Herzegovina, Buna, near a beautiful natural spring in a cave—a very strong energy site. The second place was Visoko, where the pyramids are located. Clearly, over time, people recognized the value of the valley in Visoko, but whether they knew about the pyramids, I couldn’t say.

In your lectures, you convey the message that pyramids around the world elevate global consciousness. Can you tell us more about the connection between human consciousness and pyramids?
What is global consciousness? How can we raise it? We need to go back on our physical and spiritual path. In the 21st century, 99% of the population is focused on material goals. Unfortunately, this is a society where money and bankers rule the people. But if we stop for a second, we’ll realize that we are not just a physical, material body but much more than that. We use the physical body only in this life. But we have a soul within us... that is almost eternal with us.

The soul has its own journey from life to life, from species to species, from civilization to civilization, from planet to planet. Once we realize this, we’ll understand that there’s no need to fear. Unfortunately, fear is at the root of all our actions—fear of losing our lives, fear of losing our loved ones, fear of losing our homes, possessions, jobs.

Once we realize that there’s no need for fear—because at the core of every fear is the fear of death, which is irrational—we can start living as free men and women. And not only that, we’ll then understand how important it is to develop our spiritual senses. Once we begin to develop them, the next step is to balance the physical and spiritual within ourselves. Only after we achieve this can we say, "Yes, finally, we have people who are on a higher global consciousness."

Why is the discovery of the Bosnian pyramids important?
Because they bring us knowledge from the past. They not only tell us that the history we've been taught is wrong but also that more advanced civilizations existed in the past, and we can learn from them. There were beings who knew our planet better than we do. Once we start learning from the past, we will be able to change our present and future for the better.

Do you think there is a missing link between science and spirituality, and where should scientists look for it—in which direction and in which fields?
Since the 16th century, when the separation between religion and science occurred, we’ve been on the wrong path. Even before that, we were on the wrong path with only the religious aspect of our lives. Today, we are still dealing with the consequences of that. The problem with physical sciences that we cannot resolve is that when we talk about the world, scientists lack the imagination to solve the challenges. They have no guidelines. Yet they could find them in the spiritual aspect.

Some people call the spiritual aspect "Akasha" or the "Akashic Records." This is all the knowledge of the past and future of our planet and even the entire universe, recorded in a kind of spiritual library or energy field. There is a way for each of us to immerse ourselves in this vast knowledge—the Akashic Records, the spiritual aspect.

The problem we have today is how to verify the information we receive from this spiritual aspect. The issue, in general, with spiritual science is that it is still not a science because it does not apply the scientific methodology. If we apply it, we will be able to combine spiritual and physical science.

But in reality, there aren’t different sciences—there is only one knowledge! There may be different ways to reach this knowledge, but it is one, just as there is only one Truth. But during our spiritual journeys through different lives, we learn about different truths so that later we can choose the right one.

Can we interpret the Bosnian War of the 1990s, beyond the logic of geopolitical interests, as having a deeper significance for U.S. interests?
In the last 7,000 years of recorded history, from the Sumerians, Babylonians, to today, humanity has been a society constantly at war. We’ve had more than 15,000 wars. This means that every year there is a war somewhere. The question is: is this part of our nature? I would say it’s much more than that. It seems that over the past few thousand years, we have simply been programmed to generate violence, the energy of war, envy, ego, selfishness, hunger for power, domination, control—all negative energy.

I don’t think our true nature is like this. Positive energy should prevail, and we should be beings of light, not darkness. Why does this happen to us? It seems that those who govern society are the elite. And when we talk about the elite, nationality and religion have no influence on society. It seems that for the elite, the only important thing is to have a constant flow of negative energy.
Could it be that the two at the top of the pyramid, the bankers from the U.S. and Europe, for hundreds of years... Is their real goal to control people this way? I would say "no." There is probably someone above them.

In your opinion, is there a connection between the Bosnian pyramids and the energy centers in Bulgaria, like Belintash and the Madara Horseman?
The territory of Bulgaria is very exciting because it is an ideal place for living—the land is fertile, there are beautiful forests, the sea, many rivers, good energy, southern Europe. When we move west—Macedonia, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia—beautiful lands! Personally, I wish that after 1944 there had been a different scenario and Yugoslavia and Bulgaria had become one state. I think that would have given the Slavic people in southern Europe the necessary strength.

Your question is whether there is a connection between the energy centers in Bulgaria and Bosnia. It’s hard to say. But what we know is that the ancients knew energies and underground spaces better than we do. For them, it was always about the most beneficial energy fields and frequencies. For the ancients, distance wasn’t an issue—Bosnia, Bulgaria, the Philippines, or Mexico. They knew the planetary energy grid and the different energy lines crossing the Earth.

Thank you for the interview.
Of course!


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